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SGU "Earth"



So, many parts of last night's episode made me uncomfortable. And yet I continue to be intrigued.

I think most of us guessed during the very first episode that something had been going on between Young and Johansen. Interesting confirmation of that. One person's LJ response compared the fantasy sequences in this ep (Johansen kissing Young; Chloe kissing Eli) to that moment between Jack and Sam in "Grace." Yeah, maybe. I was interested in the Johansen/Young thing, but Chloe irritates me so much that I was kinda squirming when she kissed him and was INTENSELY relieved when it turned out to be Eli's fantasy.

Anyway, Young and Johansen. I am intrigued by this.

But Mrs. Young and Telford? That's starting to border on soap opera-style storytelling. And that brings me to what REALLY made me uncomfortable in this ep -- Young using Telford's body to have sex with his wife. That was just . . . skeevy. And yet, it was interesting. I can't believe any woman would be interested in having sex with her husband when he looks like someone else -- maybe if your husband had been stuck in someone else's body for weeks and weeks. I could see that. But in a matter of hours? I can only believe that Mrs. Young and Telford already had something going on and that's why she was comfortable being that intimate with her not-quite-husband. Of course, you could also argue that Telford shows up at her door at the end because he's all "Can I have some more please?" after his brief experiences of being in bed with her, but that wouldn't be as interesting to me. I really want Young to clue in -- "hmmm . . . it's actually rather odd that my wife was so willing to have sex with me when I didn't look like myself. What could this mean?"

Like I said, all this is so soap opera-ish. So NOT Stargate. And yet I am still intrigued.

What else?

Once again, we're all wishing Chloe had a purpose. What is up with her? Why should we care about her? Why does she idolize her father when he seemed like such a jerk? Can't she do anything more interesting than bathing or crying? I'm really starting to resent every moment of screen time with her. Ugh. (ETA: Johansen has much less screen time and dialogue and yet I find her so much more watchable and interesting. I wonder why?)

Eli, on the other hand, gets more adorable each episode. Loved the scenes with his mom. Love his delight at being singled out by the cute girl. He seems real. And he definitely has a purpose and a clear character arc.

Of course, Jack O'Neill is always a welcome addition to any Stargate episode! (Hence my squee icon.) But I kinda miss skinny Jack. I'm shallow that way.

I thought the whole resolution was rather rushed. (No pun intended.) It didn't quite match the complexity of the set up. But it did help perpetuate the mystery around whether Rush is a good guy or not.

This show is so strange, so different from our usual Stargate. And it often seems kind of slow and overly grim. But I always look forward to it. And I also end up thinking about it a lot afterwards. And some of the characters are really growing on me.

What did you guys think?
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As for Eli and Chloe? I didn't see that kissing as a fantasy sequence. I thought it was drunk kissing that Eli rightly saw for what it was. I'll need to rewatch.

Check out the editing. I'm pretty sure the kiss is in Eli's imagination. (Gosh, I HOPE it is. Please don't give me more reasons to dislike Chloe, show!)

As for Telford:

Or was he planning on killing the relationship once and for all by spilling everything?

But doesn't she know everything already?

Actually, I forgot to say that I liked Lou D. P.'s expression at the end. It's almost as if Telford is vulnerable in some way. He looks apprehensive. But it could be an act.

Any size Jack is better than no Jack, for sure! And like you said, RDA probably looks perfectly normal in real life. Someone on LJ made the comment that Jack almost seems broken in these scenes -- yes, he has more power, but gone are the days of kicking butt across the galaxy and being snarky to system lords! Now his men are being snarky to him!

He might even be envious of Carter for still being out there. (And wouldn't this put a strain on their relationship -- THE ONE THEY DEFINITELY ARE HAVING and YOU'D BETTER CONFIRM THIS SGU!)

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I like these so call soap operish elements to SGU. Who these guys were back on Earth and the troubled relationships they have had could positively or adversely impact the lives of everyone on the DESTINY.

It is an interesting thought that the reason Young's wife was so willing to have sex with Young in Telford's body is that she had been having an affair with him. I think it might go to show that maybe she isn't the innocent victim (wife abandon by Husband who choose his career over the marriage) that is she is trying to make herself out to be. It definitely has the squickiness factor that Young might just given his wife permission to have sex with a guy she might already be having sex with.

I am hoping that this ep was an epiphany of sorts for Chloe's character. That from here on in we will see that she is moving more towards standing on her own and looking to see what she can contribute.

I am so happy that we get to see more of Jack. I hope that TPTB continue to include him in the future.

That is an interesting comment about Jack being broken. He is definitely not the same Jack we have seen before. Like you said his days of kicking Gouald butt and being snarky to system lords are probably over. I think of him as being resigned to or more accepting of his new role in the scheme of things. I think that probably was one of the hardest things he has had to deal with. Getting older isn't easy for any of us.
I just now got to watch this ep and I echo many of your thoughts. I don't think I've ever actively wished for a character to be killed off like I do Chloe. I thought for a moment I was not disliking her so much towards the end, but then I realized that it was just Eli spill-over. The scenes with Eli and his Mom are the first on-earth scenes that I've really liked, and I loved him at the party.

The whole thing with the Youngs and Telford is very weird. My thought at the end was that Telford is back just to get some more, and that he's pretending to be Everett. But your idea is much more interesting -- although I think it's almost squickier if she's having sex with her lover while he's being inhabited by her husband. To me that seems more betraying, or something. I'll be interested to see how it all plays out.

I also appreciate how, despite everything, they are coming together more as a crew -- supporting Young, bringing Greer more into the fold, and even accepting Rush and his paranoid behavior a bit more. I was also glad they gave Lt. Whatsisname a bit of a rest -- it seems like he's been the focal point of every ep so far. And the scenes he did have (like talking with Greer) were good and reinforced his character nicely.

And yes! It was great to see RDA again, even if he is looking older. I think whoever said he looked "resigned" had it right, as in he's resigned to being The Man instead of the maverick. The scene with Young standing up to Jack had an interesting emotional dynamic -- I was proud of Young for standing up to the Earth PTB that don't understand the whole situation on Destiny, but I couldn't think badly of or root against Jack either.

Overall, a better ep than "Water," but still a mixed reaction from me.